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Date: December 31, 2006
From: Mathieu van Echtelt <mathieu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Thanks, i've chosen blender and working myself through this helpfull beginners tutorial: http://mediawiki.blender.org/index.php/Manual/Your_First_Animation_in_30_plus_30_Minutes_Part_I It was quite difficult to load the newest Wisconsin package into croquet's fresh 1.0 image, and to be able to open the Wisconsin demo world. Following email-thread helped me to solve these problems: https://lists.wisc.edu/read/messages?id=1404077 Andreas raab's explanation about loading order to solve the AnObsoleteTLoadMDL error was crucial. Finding the "Install" package per monticello repository also helped to do the job. Have to stop exploring croquet for now, new year is knocking on my door. greetings, mathieu van echtelt. On 12/30/06, Howard Stearns <hstearns@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Dec 30, 2006, at 7:17 AM, Mathieu van Echtelt wrote: > Hello, > > It's vacation time, and I'm having fun exploring croquet. > > I downloaded last version from opencroquet.org. (SDK 1.0 beta) > > Some beginners questions I have: > > 1. I would like to edit and create 3d objects as a 'user' not as a > developer, but can't find the appropriate tools. Found some articles > which are mentioning Wicket and EditObject3D. Are these the tools to > use? How to start these? It looks like they are not in the image I > downloaded, and I can't find any Monticello package which would > include these. Croquet chief architect and Wicket author has a commercial company called Qwaq. There are a lot of good non-collaborative tools for making 3D objects, including 3D Studio Max, Blender, Maya, Poser, SketchUp, etc. The Croquet SDK includes a reader for the .ase files produced by 3D Studio Max, and the Contrib library includes a reader for .vrml and one for Wavefront's .obj. The latter is used by Poser, which also puts out .bvh motion files that the Contrib code can read. (Some of the above tools can read other formats and produce one of these the supported formats.) The SDK also includes a Morphic-based TPainter that lets you (non- collaboratively) sketch and color a 2D shape that it inflates to a 3D shape for you and puts it into the space. The Wisconsin package in the repository also has a block-world way of collaboratively and incrementally building things from within the space. You create and size blocks or other shapes created through the above approaches, and then paste textures onto them and paste the shapes onto each other. (This is roughly similar to the in-world building tool of Second Life.) The same package lets you drag in pictures or .ase shapes into Croquet from your desktop. One issue with creating (or placing and arranging) stuff in-world is keeping them for another day. The SDK provides some developer-level tools for taking a #snapshot of a given world and resurrecting it later. Another approach is to just connect to a space that is "up" and which never completely goes "down". Which brings you to your next question... > > 2. Is there running a croquet server where I can connect to to play > around? Not yet. The above-mentioned Wisconsin package in the repository is set up to let folks do that, but it still needs some debugging and tuning. Stay tuned... > > Thanks in advance, > > -- > AG5 Product manager >
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Date: December 31, 2006
From: Gavin Newman <gavinnewman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Can someone please tell me (in simple terms) how to get Croquet working with Ubuntu 6.10 Many Thanks Gavin
Date: December 30, 2006
From: Howard Stearns <hstearns@xxxxxxxx>
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On Dec 30, 2006, at 7:17 AM, Mathieu van Echtelt wrote:
Hello, It's vacation time, and I'm having fun exploring croquet. I downloaded last version from opencroquet.org. (SDK 1.0 beta) Some beginners questions I have: 1. I would like to edit and create 3d objects as a 'user' not as a developer, but can't find the appropriate tools. Found some articles which are mentioning Wicket and EditObject3D. Are these the tools to use? How to start these? It looks like they are not in the image I downloaded, and I can't find any Monticello package which would include these.
Croquet chief architect and Wicket author has a commercial company called Qwaq.
There are a lot of good non-collaborative tools for making 3D objects, including 3D Studio Max, Blender, Maya, Poser, SketchUp, etc. The Croquet SDK includes a reader for the .ase files produced by 3D Studio Max, and the Contrib library includes a reader for .vrml and one for Wavefront's .obj. The latter is used by Poser, which also puts out .bvh motion files that the Contrib code can read. (Some of the above tools can read other formats and produce one of these the supported formats.)
The SDK also includes a Morphic-based TPainter that lets you (non- collaboratively) sketch and color a 2D shape that it inflates to a 3D shape for you and puts it into the space.
The Wisconsin package in the repository also has a block-world way of collaboratively and incrementally building things from within the space. You create and size blocks or other shapes created through the above approaches, and then paste textures onto them and paste the shapes onto each other. (This is roughly similar to the in-world building tool of Second Life.) The same package lets you drag in pictures or .ase shapes into Croquet from your desktop.
One issue with creating (or placing and arranging) stuff in-world is keeping them for another day. The SDK provides some developer-level tools for taking a #snapshot of a given world and resurrecting it later. Another approach is to just connect to a space that is "up" and which never completely goes "down". Which brings you to your next question...
2. Is there running a croquet server where I can connect to to play around?
Not yet. The above-mentioned Wisconsin package in the repository is set up to let folks do that, but it still needs some debugging and tuning. Stay tuned...
Thanks in advance, -- AG5 Product manager
Date: December 30, 2006
From: Mathieu van Echtelt <mathieu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Hello, It's vacation time, and I'm having fun exploring croquet. I downloaded last version from opencroquet.org. (SDK 1.0 beta) Some beginners questions I have: 1. I would like to edit and create 3d objects as a 'user' not as a developer, but can't find the appropriate tools. Found some articles which are mentioning Wicket and EditObject3D. Are these the tools to use? How to start these? It looks like they are not in the image I downloaded, and I can't find any Monticello package which would include these. 2. Is there running a croquet server where I can connect to to play around? Thanks in advance, -- AG5 Product manager
Date: December 22, 2006
From: Joshua Gargus <schwa@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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It is best to direct to address non-Croquet-specific questions to the above mailing lists.
For Croquet-specific programming, start with the Programming Guide (http://www.opencroquet.org/Site%20PDFs/Croquet%20Programming% 201.0B.pdf), and feel free to ask questions that aren't clear afterward.
Have fun, Josh On Dec 22, 2006, at 1:05 PM, Richard wrote:
I am a begginer programmer. I only know C++ but just a little and this does not use c++. I was looking for tutorials on the coding system conquet uses. I was wandering how to code new things into conquet.
Date: December 22, 2006
From: "Richard" <icewater_29@xxxxxxxxxxx>
I am a begginer programmer. I only know C++ but just a little and this does not use c++. I was looking for tutorials on the coding system conquet uses. I was wandering how to code new things into conquet.
Date: December 21, 2006
From: Howard Stearns <hstearns@xxxxxxxx>
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There are several things you might mean:http://opencroquet.org/croquet_technologies/tutorials.html lists some movies. Some of these show the use of some of the demos on a LAN. Some show the use of different distinct worlds linked as a network to each other by portals.
http://jlombardi.blogspot.com/2006/01/unauthorized-tutorials.html describes a far ranging EARLY tutorial that I recall had some interesting ideas about different ways of embedding (different places in?) Croquet as a network within a larger application.
http://earth.software.umn.edu/cgi-bin/KnownWorlds shows an example of a generated registry of spaces (not just on a LAN). It is based on the stuff under the Space menu of the "Simple Demo" in the SDK repository code. I don't know of a writeup of this.
What is it that you are trying to do, and are you asking as a programmer, a user, or otherwise?
Richard wrote:
I was wondering...is there any place where I can go that has some tutorials on this? I forgot the url of one that showed how to make a lan on this softwhere by linking windows inside it. If anyone has or knows a place that can help me with this please post.
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Date: December 20, 2006
From: "Richard" <icewater_29@xxxxxxxxxxx>
I was wondering...is there any place where I can go that has some tutorials on this? I forgot the url of one that showed how to make a lan on this softwhere by linking windows inside it. If anyone has or knows a place that can help me with this please post.